[yters]

It's alright, but I don't recall the book articulating actions computers cannot do. It seemed to still leave open the possibility that we can automate all human work. What we need is a precise task that humans can do with ease but we can prove is impossible for any computational device whatsoever.

[JacksonGariety]

My understanding was that he thinks we can potentially automate all human work, just not with computers. A precise task isn't necessary: AI researchers are simply mistaken about the nature of intelligence.

[yters]

Dreyfus doesn't know his comp sci. Everything automatable is computable. The interesting question is whether human intelligence is automatable.

[JacksonGariety]

>everything automatable is computable

why do you suppose this?

[yters]

Everything physical is computable.

[JacksonGariety]

So you have to prove that all human work is physical when some of it doesn't seem to be physical at all (creative work).

[yters]

Yes the non-physical work is not automatable.

[mehh]

Self awareness?

[yters]

That's not a task per se. What I mean is a technical task.

[mehh]

Self awareness?