[eusman]

their determination was due to the fact that they believed in their idea. so it's impossible to had very little to do with the idea

[mixmax]

As you say their determination was due to the fact that they believed in their idea - not that their idea was particularly great.

[eusman]

i agree with you that they may had any other idea and be determined about it, but if the idea wasn't what people needed it wouldn't have the enormous success it had.