[nightski]

Look, you can be on a ketogenic diet and not eat meat at all. I eat a few ounces a day. I could easily not eat any at all and still maintain a high fat ketogenic diet, but I enjoy the flavor.

I also have read plenty of studies that contradict the ones above. I'm not saying they are necessarily wrong. But I find medical statistical studies very hard to interpret because they don't control for all the factors and the data is not super reliable. Often the conclusions seem excessive given the data that is actually there.

[shlant]

> Look, you can be on a ketogenic diet and not eat meat at all.

For sure, but I doubt most people doing Keto are eating very little to no meat.

> I find medical statistical studies very hard to interpret because they don't control for all the factors and the data is not super reliable

Ok so you are suggesting we throw out all studies because they may or may not control for all the variables? That seems like a zero sum proposition that is a bit overkill. Of course there are some studies that are less rigorously controlled than others, but to conclude that no studies can be trusted because "medical statistical studies very hard to interpret" and "the data is not super reliable" just seems like an excuse to ignore what is very compelling evidence.

[nightski]

Of course I don't want to throw the studies out. I'm suggesting the conclusions are too strong and not necessarily justified.