[StavrosK]

> I still think [it] is a great approach for cross-platform apps

You think so? I find that running a whole second OS for every process is hugely bloated and slow, and that we can do much, much better when there are already very good languages that run cross-platformly, they just need bindings to a good cross-platform UI toolkit.

Unfortunately, nothing looks as good on OS X as Cocoa does.

[wodenokoto]

Yes. Yes I do.

Look at R studio. Wonderful IDE, runs as a safari app. Having a whole extra browser and a node backend running for each app seems a waste, but using the browser that is already running as a runtime environment seems much saner.

I do most of my work in the browser, I wouldn't mind if some of that had better integrated UI.

I also wouldn't mind writing small, easy to produce apps that will work across systems.

[StavrosK]

I'm not saying programs written in it aren't useful or doable, I just don't think it's a great approach. I think it's a last-resort approach, because there just isn't a better cross-platform toolkit available.