[moron4hire]

What use is off-by-default? Who turns telemetry on?

[rollcat]

Debian pop-con is opt-in. http://popcon.debian.org/

[cjsuk]

This says that telemetry is the wrong solution then.

[Guvante]

Why? Defaults are important and the vast majority don't care (assuming correctly selected telemetry data) and the majority can't be bothered to change the default in either case.

Again I am making a huge assumption about correctly selected telemetry data here but opt in mechanisms won't get even 10% of the data they currently do.

[cjsuk]

Defaults should respect the user first. Consent has to be given, not taken as a default.

Sure ask up front explicitly but don't in passing invoke the first capture before consent has been taken. That's a shitty tactic.

[moron4hire]

Collecting basic usage data is not disrespecting the user.

[concede_pluto]

It is when you know you can't persuade them you have a good-enough reason to need it, so instead you don't even try.

[cjsuk]

In your opinion. Mine differs.