Hacker News new | ask | show | jobs
by Zahlmeister 3260 days ago
I'm sorry to break your bubble, but it's just not true. Let's take this apart:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/may/...

Quote: "In other words, the typical German was more likely to engage in crime than the average migrant."

Source: https://www.thelocal.de/20151113/police-refugees-commit-less...

Headline: "Police: refugees commit less crime than Germans"

Quote: "Interior Minsiter Thomas de Maizière responded to the news by saying: "The current trend shows that refugees are just as unlikely to commit crimes as comparable groups among the current population. The majority of them don't commit crimes, they are seeking protection and and peace in Germany."

Source: https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article148812603/Str...

Actual Quote: "Ganz allgemein sprach Innenminister de Maizière von derzeit verfügbaren „Tendenzaussagen, dass Flüchtlinge im Durchschnitt genauso wenig oder oft straffällig werden wie Vergleichsgruppen der hiesigen Bevölkerung“."

Translation: "We have have information that suggests that refugees commit crime about as often, or as rarely, as comparable groups in the local population".

First of all, the interior minister obviously has a big incentive to downplay whatever problems are caused by the decisions of his administration. Secondly, he's talking about the refugees, not migrants in general. Also, what are "comparable groups"? It's not defined. If it's "comparable", then it's not going to be "typical" nor "average". The information he references is kept "confidential", by the way. In any case, absolutely nowhere does it say that refugees or migrants are less likely to commit crime, even though that's what is being reported by both English sources.

The reality is that crime rate among migrants is higher, for whatever reason. Migrants were responsible for 10-20% (differing by state) of violent crime in 2016, well above their share of the population: http://www.tagesspiegel.de/politik/kriminalitaet-in-deutschl...

This article does mention however that Syrians/Iraqis are less likely to commit those crimes than migrants from other countries.

1 comments

How can so many people have and believe (and force upon others) such a twisted narrative?

Ofc "Bio-Deutsche" are very well-behaved and engage in typical Street-Crimes like you see in typical countries (e.g. Brasil) much less

You just go to work 1 day and you have 200€ more, no need to steal

How can so many people run around with such distorted narratives and force them down the throats of other people??