[knocte]

> All these BIPs are just short term fixes which don't address > the core problem.

Wrong, SegWit (BIP 91 and 141) solves transaction malleability, which in itself will allow new layers (off-chain) to be built on top of the first layer (on-chain), which will allow orders of magnitude more throughput on number of payments per month.

[olegkikin]

Off-chain is, by definition, not Bitcoin. Bitcoin itself is still very limited in throughput, and will remain so until the block size is increased.

[knocte]

Wrong. When you sign a transaction off-chain, you're signing a real bitcoin transaction, which you choose (or your software) to not broadcast to the network for convenience reasons (as you will likely sign more transactions later).