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by tome 3259 days ago
> I wanted to watch a catch up program but my finger slipped

You're required to have a TV licence to watch catch up programs: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/tvlicence This rule has been in force for some months now.

> am I breaking the law? Am I considered a criminal by the state?

I imagine the case law on this issue is very well understood by now. I don't know the answer but I doubt there are any legal uncertainties.

> the ABSURD methods they go to intimidate you into paying, even when you don't watch live television

I'm not sure what it's like for those like you who have device but no aerial. I have no device. Once every two years I get a letter asking me to fill in a web form to confirm I still have no device. It's annoying, sure, but your reaction seems massively over the top.

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Oh great, the rules have changed. Guess I should just uninstall the piece of software that came with the TV.

As for "over the top" - http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one?wt.mc_id=... clearly states a device could be pretty much any electronic device at this stage, not just TVs - So how does this work? How is it proven you don't actually benefit from a TV programs? Not having a TV doesn't seem to be enough in the eyes of the law. I don't necessarily want my details attached to a private company I have no business with, as I understand it they are just outsourced enforcement and there is no legal obligation to provide them with any of my details (the letters aren't even addressed to "me" as a person, but simply the "occupier"). I'd rather keep getting the letters than give them information they have no right to.

It's all ambiguous and nonsensical to me. If there is anything I actually enjoyed in my southern European origins is that governmental funded extortion was at least direct.

I have devices, I have an aerial, and there's a dish bolted to the wall. I don't have the devices connected to the aerial or the dish. I fill out the form, and I get a letter once every two years.

> but your reaction seems massively over the top.

Yes. There are a bunch of youtube videos of people saying the best thing to do is to never respond to the letters, but those channels also have people complaining about multiple letters and visits from TVL.

> the best thing to do is to never respond to the letters

Yeah I tried that strategy for a while and got pissed off with how many letters I was getting. Then I filled in the web form and it's a once-in-two-year thing for me now. Much better!

I get a letter from the BBC every month threatening me with court action if I don't buy a TV license.
Is it from the BBC? They outsourced licencing many years ago.
Parts of the operation are contracted out to Capita, who act as agents for the BBC under the "TV Licensing" trade name.
Have you filled out the web form?
No I quite enjoy the threatening letters, they tend to repeat after about 6 months but every now and again you get a new one.