[skrowl]

I'm in the same boat. I get that it's "cool" to crap on Angular here on HN, but I find it to be a great framework that you only need to learn by itself (unlike React where you also need 10 other things). Angular CLI makes it easy to get started and examples / help are easy to find.

[danielharrison]

To be fair, those '10 other things' are already baked into angular, so if you don't want them, well, too bad.

[atmartins]

But you don't have to import something if you don't intend on using it. They're baked in conceptually, so there's more coherence, but the deployment payload doesn't have to be unnecessarily large.

[danielharrison]

I stand corrected. Looks as if things have changed from what I remember.