[steveklabnik]

arewewebyet hasn't been updated since March, and there's been some big developments since then.

Those probably are the two most popular, but there's a Cambrian Explosion going on right now, with new frameworks like Susanoo and Cargonauts appearing on the regular. Heck, I even have my own little half-baked one.

[zanny]

This is actually driving me a bit insane trying to do anything more than the simplest Rust samples. There are... a lot of competing libraries implementing the same concepts. Input validators, crypto, tls, http (there are I believe at least 3 http/2 implementations, and hyper doesn't even support it yet) and pretty much every concept under the sun (hell, hyper has its own implementation of a url type independent from servo_url).

There are several Json types across all the various crates, multiple Url types, multiple Http::Request or Hmac or SHA cipher types. They all use the same names but are always distinct constructs that cannot interop.

It might be one of the most significant ergonomic issues with Rust going forward. Having a dozen Url types in Python is fine since the typing usually just coerces them all to Strings for interop anyway. Most Url types are (thankfully) serializiable and have a to_string, but in a statically typed language the performance implications of having the compiler generate strings from objects to be consumed by another object's constructor are dreadful.

[pimeys]

> there are I believe at least 3 http/2 implementations, and hyper doesn't even support it yet

Hyper 0.11 with Tokio is the thing to choose for http/1. It's fast and composes nicely. Http/2 support is coming soon and looking pretty nice already.

[steveklabnik]

Yup, that's what early ecosystems are like! It'll settle down eventually.

[wutwutwutwut]

Some ecosystems stay like this for a long time (JavaScript).