[jjeaff]

In the US, there is due process. Granted, that due process has been seriously eroded over the years in cases where the government can claim terrorism, but otherwise, it still takes a court order to force a company to comply with a government request for information.

[zorked]

Is due process that has been eroded over the years still due process? Where do we draw the line?

[weberc2]

There's no need to draw a line; it's a risk continuum. With no due process at all, China is a higher risk option than three US.

[weberc2]

*the US

Thanks autocorrect!

[jjeaff]

Right now, apparently at terrorism. And there is still a line, a court must approve it, might be a kangaroo court, but a judge is signing off on things.

[brooklyntribe]

Due process? Ha. Arrested in NYC way back when.

Rights read. NO. Telephone call.NO. Why was I just arrested? WHO KNOWS? I need my lawyer. HA. You can't hold me for over 24 hours for nothing?

You don't like it? Sue us. The NYC tax payers will end paying all the costs. HA HA HA

My experience with "Due Process" in the USA. At least I got out alive, in China may have been different.

Thank you NYC taxpayers for that $1000 settlement check after legal fees. :-)

[kobeya]

So your rights were violated and you got legal recourse. Your complaint is?

[krebby]

That it shouldn't have happened in the first place? That our legal process is pretty damn broken? I have a similar story in NYC except I never sued so I didn't get a check. Just a massive waste of my time, energy and money and no recourse.

[fredoliveira]

I think it is pretty clear that his complaint is that his rights were violated in the first place.

[kobeya]

For which he received compensation.