[serichsen]

Lisp's problem is rather that so many people play around with it, but not long enough to develop /good taste/ in it, and finally loudly complain about the language when their real problem is their lack of imagination.

You discovered structs, but you should not have stopped there. Structs can be configured. You can declare boa constructors (yes, really, By Order of Arguments). You can configure the names of the accessors. You might even create a little reader macro for creating them. You might want to write a little with-3dvecs macro for quick destructuring. When structs do not have everything you need, maybe go to CLOS classes.

In Python, “there is only one way to do it”. In Perl, “there is more than one way to do it”. In Lisp, there are thousands of ways to do it. If you haven't found a good one for your problem yet, keep looking. I promise, there is at least one.

By the way, you also have no idea of Clojure, but I have only been using it for a few years, so I feel not confident to give meaningful hints.

[kazinator]

Lisp's problem is that almost nobody plays with it, but they know that it's that language that relies a lot on parentheses. When they do rarely come across the odd example it is full of unfamiliar symbols: car, labels, mapcan, assoc, setf and so on. Depending on the code, it's possible that not a single thing means anything to even be able to guess.