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by pjmlp 3268 days ago
Usually game developers changed language when the OS or game console's SDK release forced them to do so.

> These languages are not good choices for a game engine

I have seen these words written against C, Turbo Pascal, Modula-2, C++.

Some of the games I saw "written" in C for MS-DOS were like this all over the place:

    void my_func(void)
    {
       asm {
         /* 100% of my_func actual code */
       }
    }
Just as if C was a macro assembler.
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karmadog 3268 days ago
SDKs never forced anybody to move to C or C++, but the opposite is true: C/C++ compilers were either unavailable or limited.

"I have seen these words written against C, Turbo Pascal, Modula-2, C++."

So what? Those words probably had a good argument behind them, at the time.

In the MS-DOS days, compilers weren't as good as today, so handwritten ASM paid off.

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pjmlp 3268 days ago
> So what? Those words probably had a good argument behind them, at the time.

> In the MS-DOS days, compilers weren't as good as today, so handwritten ASM paid off.

Just like C compilers had enough money spent into their optimizers, that eventually made them competitive against Assembly, so can C#,Go,D, <whatever language> have enough work placed into them, that eventually they will become competitive against C.

People believed they could make C competitive against Assembly, just like they believe they could make C++ competitive against C.

So it is a matter if one wants to believe and lead, or don't and follow.

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karmadog 3268 days ago
If <whatever language> makes certain assumptions and guarantees on behavior, then no, belief is not enough. It has to be plausible. GC alone really is a big issue and all the research (of which there is a lot) has not solved fundamental issues.

There are of course languages (like Rust) that have the fundamentals to match C/C++, but then it's still a matter of adoption. C++ also still develops.

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pjmlp 3268 days ago
The fundamental issues is that science only advances one memorial at a time, as there is no amount of technical proofs that will change the mind of luddites.
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