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by bicubic 3270 days ago
> - just American internet's future

American internet has a very strong and direct impact on 'international' internet. Aside from the fact that a large fraction of international traffic passes through American switches or servers, America is a policy leader to many other nations - both passively and actively. Passively by signalling to telcos in other nations that they could probably attempt the same thing, and actively by forcing some of these provisions as part and parcel of trade agreements.

You just can't pretend that the impact these decisions will be isolated to the US.

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It still should be written differently then. As a non-American this all reads quite... strange.
Well the website is written by and for Americans, because it's an American law, being worked through the American system, to target American companies.

Don't get me wrong, we need everybody's help we can get for this, but if they were trying to do the same in Germany it would be written by Germans, in German, and be targeting a German audience.

Much like healthcare, it's safe to assume that discussions about net neutrality are specific to the USA as most first-world nations established this a while ago.
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Oh good grief.

THOUGHT EXPERIMENT: Imagine an ISP writing some text about "the American Internet". Imagine that it gives the impression of the American Internet being isolated. That foreign entities shouldn't worry (or lobby), because changes to American law or regulation will have no impact on the rest of the world.

In this scenario, I imagine there would be lots of comments about American arrogance. About how the Internet is more interconnected than that. About how ignorant Americans are, for not realizing that other nations' data flows through our pipes, and is subject to the whims of our legislators and regulators, etc.

People on HN are always so bothered by everything. Too often on posts, you have to scroll halfway down the page to find any substantive, non-meta discussion... rather than arguments about font selection or CSS layout, or various political tangents that people find more interesting. At any rate, the U.S. is deserving of so many legitimate criticisms, the imagined grievance in this sub-thread is flatly absurd.

That's not just HN. That's anywhere anything about America is discussed. No matter what side of an argument it is, there is always plenty of criticism of American sensibilities regardless of actual relevance. We get it: we're all pompous, obese, gun nuts who have no consideration for any other nation than 'murica. Now that we've gotten that out of the way, can we focus on the topic at hand?
it does
London has been the biggest European city for banks, but with Brexit looming on the horizon many of the banks are relocating to mainland EU and they seem to be doing just fine.

The companies, the entrepreneurs that would be affected could move their operations just the same way.

Yeah sure, let's move all local industry and commerce out of England, it can't be that hard if the multinational banks with their armies of lawyers and accountants can do it, right?
Yes you can. The United States isn't a thought leader anymore in this kind of thing. If anything many politicians in countries other than the USA get more popular by proposing to do the opposite of what the USA is doing. Think Paris Climate Accord if you need an example.