[d8421l01vv4r]

If the use of greek letters is a major hurdle to learning maths, I'm guessing that the learner has misunderstood something fundamental about symbols in maths. It shouldn't make any significant difference if the symbols are Latin, Greek or even made up by the lecturer (as long as they are sane).

[yequalsx]

In theory it shouldn't matter but it does. We brainwash students to think in terms of y being a function of x.

y = f(x)

If you give a problem with x = f(y) it really confuses people. If I label the horizontal axis y and the vertical axis x in the cartesian plane then confusion ensues.

t = b(a) where t is the velocity and a is time

That's confusing. I suppose it's analogous to me saying

"The male, fluffy, white, large sheep."

There is a certain amount of brainwashing that occurs with the symbols that we use. Using symbols other than the ones that have been standardized on is very difficult cognitively. What you say is true in theory but I think not in practice.

[eeZah7Ux]

If this is enough to "really confuse" someone than there's a serious problem with understanding VS rota learning.

[kaitai]

You're totally right... but the previous poster is too. I encounter many students who really freak out at f(t) = y vs f(t) = x vs f(x) = y. Obviously they don't understand very well. I go back and forth between using notation as a crutch (always stay consistent so we can focus on the topic instead of the notation) and trying to really wean students from notation-dependence (let's do f(smily face) = y today! let's rotate all the axes and draw this with the z-axis sticking out!).

When people have very fragile understanding, they may be genuinely unsure if derivative with respect to x is computed the same way as derivative with respect to n. After all, x is always a real-valued variable and n is always a non-negative integer.... right?

[dahart]

This is an enormously serious problem with humans. All humans. Cognitive biases, miscommunication, misinterpreting patterns and data and evidence, inability to differentiate what something looks like from what's inside, inability to believe statistics that contradict personal experience, the list goes on and on...

People who have learned math and are comfortable with it's symbols and abstractions are less susceptible, but all people are susceptible to this confusion.

[yequalsx]

I'm certain you would be confused by non-standard usage of notation. It's not just symbols and that any symbol can be used. Try reading or speaking English with the adjectives in an order that is not expected. It's confusing as hell but grammatically correct. Our brains get trained to see things in a certain way and when the symbols get jumbled up so do we.

(x1(x2+x3) - x1(x2))/x3

is simply not as understandable to a first year calculus student as

(f(x+h) - f(x))/h

I've been teaching university level mathematics for 25 years and I know mixing up symbols confuses people. Try reading Newton's Principia. It's really hard to know what he's talking about.

EDIT: Try this equation. What famous one does it represent?

(sex(sxe) - sex(xes))/(sxe - xes) = xse sex/xse sxe

[yequalsx]

Here's something else to consider. There used to be obfuscated C programming contests. If symbols are just symbols and using them in nonstandard ways isn't confusing then shouldn't this mean that there is no such thing as obfuscated C programs? Does the existence of obfuscated C programming contests imply that programmers have a serious problem with understanding vs rote learning?

[Chris2048]

There's a nuance here too.

in programming, y = f(x) = x^2 is one way; 'y' is a label for a function of one variable.

But in math there is no fixed typing, or distinctions. The symbolic equation represents a relationship.

Hence:

y(x) = x^2 <=> x(y) = (+/-) sqrt(y)

the domain and domain can be switched and the entire equation rearrange so that a 'variable' becomes a 'function'.

[yequalsx]

Here is an interesting observation on what you wrote:

x(y) = (+/-) sqrt(y)

is not valid notation. On the left hand side you are stating that x is a function of y. But on the right hand side your usage of (+/-) indicates that y can go to two different values. Hence x is not a function of y. To be a function one must have each input going to a distinct output.

[Chris2048]

Yep, that was on purpose somewhat. A choice of +/- will essentially make a restricted codomain, to positives say.

That means switching the variables around switched domain/codomain.

An example where they are both the same:

y(x) = x + 1 <=> x(y) = y - 1

[dahart]

The learner presumably doesn't know maths or what the symbols in maths are yet, so perhaps they haven't understood yet, rather than they misunderstood something.

Symbols are in fact intimidating to some people. Not after you learn them, but before.

Your argument is abstract and theoretical. It doesn't make any difference to a computer which symbols you use, because it's a lookup table. But to a human, learning new characters takes effort. That effort could be used to learn the concepts, but instead we take time learning new symbols.

Try typing your reply in trinary. It shouldn't make any difference if the symbols are ascii or trinary. You should be able to type just as fast.