[acchow]

> It is a very Silicon Valley thing to assume that everyone else is an idiot and needs to be disrupted, with not a thought given as to why things are the way they are.

This kind of thinking has also lead to a ton of success in Silicon Valley. See Tesla for example.

[vintageseltzer]

This kind of thinking led to Juicero.

[pdelbarba]

And applied to aviation you get the Piasecki PA97

[dx034]

Did Tesla really disrupt the car market? Sure, everyone is now building EVs but that already started before Tesla became successful. They have no market power on the overall car market.

Companies like Uber, Google, Amazon certainly disrupted markets but I wouldn't be so sure about Tesla.

[mikeash]

Nobody was building long range EVs before Tesla. Short range city cars like the LEAF are really a different category.

Volvo has credited Tesla for pushing car makers into EVs, so at least one incumbent thinks that: https://electrek.co/2017/05/17/volvo-tesla-says-stop-diesel-...

Audi seems to as well, although it's not quite as clear: http://insideevs.com/audis-electromobility-boss-i-hate-to-ad...

[coldtea]

>This kind of thinking has also lead to a ton of success in Silicon Valley. See Tesla for example.

Well, not exactly a role model for success. 2016 was the first time they made any profit in all those years -- and its uncertain if 2017 will follow.

And it might still be beaten up in all its markets (electric cars and eventually self-driving ones), not a sure winner yet.

[justinjlynn]

A broken clock is correct at least once a day.

[idlewords]

That used to be true (twice a day, even), but now it just flashes 12:00, or the screen is dead.

[caf]

A clock that flashes 12:00 is still right twice a day.

[glenneroo]

Unless you live in a country which uses 24-hour clocks, which is most of the world.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_representation_b...

[caf]

Do unset clocks flash 12:00 in locations that use 24-hour clocks, or do they flash 00:00?

[glenneroo]

I can't honestly say I ever paid attention, but I just checked all clocks I could find, one flashes 00:00 and the other 0:00. Most if not all clocks I've used had a 12 or 24-hour mode, not sure what happens if you set to 12-hour and unplug it (probably just reset to defaults).

[idlewords]

Flashing is an error condition.

[justinjlynn]

Indeed, a broken modern digital clock is likely to just be blank.

[Kliment]

So it's correct at 12 and possibly at midnight too