Ask HN: How do you get around question deflection when interviewing?

[javajive]

I'm new to interviewing. At this point, I've interviewed 5 candidates for the small startup I work at. I like to hear about projects the candidate worked on previously and then ask them to get into the technical details on a component of it. For example, let's say the candidate was scraping web pages for photos of cats. I'd ask them to tell me about it and the candidate starts with an overview of the system. Something like - "We built a process to scrape a set of webpages looking for cat photos. We then store the photos in an s3 bucket and retrieve them later via an api we built out". I'd then ask, "How are you identifying photos of cats on these webpages?". I'll get a fairly generic response, "Deep Learning", or "Photo Titles". I respond to this with, "That's interesting, tell me about the challenges you faced trying to implement that?". This is where I've received a deflection twice in the five interviews I've done. The first time this happened, the candidate responded, "That's too complicated". The second time the candidate responded, "I don't want to bore you with the details".

This is starting to concern me. When this happens in an interview, how do you get around it so the candidate will talk about the technical aspects of their project? Should this be an immediate red flag? Could I be doing something which leads to candidates not wanting to get into technical details?

[muzuq]

I wouldn't "red flag" a dodged answer, but "yellow flag" it.

One of the most useful tactics in interviewing, or in any conversation, is to use silence as a tool. In your example, if they say "Deep learning", instead of responding with "that's interesting,..." stay silent for a few momenths. They will subconsciously jump to fill the gap in conversation, often revealing even more about themselves with the "unprepared" response you promted with your silence.

Another tact to take is being more "strong-armed". If they "dont want to bore you with the details", simply say "I would like to hear the details, break it down for me".

Simply don't allow them to deflect. If they deflect and haven't answered your question to your satisfaction, be straight forward and ask them to elaborate.

[bargl]

I think some candidates don't know what is IP for their current company and don't want to get in trouble discussing that. The other one sounded like he didn't fully understand it.

If you circle back and say something like, please bore me with the details it sounds interesting and they refuse that would be a deal breaker for me. It is in my mind a huge red flag.

[javajive]

I hadn't thought about IP at all. Thanks for bringing that up! I really appreciate the feedback.

[muzuq]

Keep in mind, if it's an IP issue they should be replying upfront with "I'm not sure I can discuss that, IP blah blah" not dodging the question.

If they are an honest candidate, at least.

[throwaway693383]

If they are a dishonest candidate they should be deflecting in this way too.

It shuts down the interviewer's chance to strong arm them, without the interviewer coming off as aggressive.

It also signals to the interviewer that the candidate is trustworthy, and isn't going to go off interviewing for other companies sharing their IP.

[charsifood]

> "That's too complicated"

> "I don't want to bore you with the details".

Response: "Try me."

Dig for the details and if the candidate can't provide them, then either someone else did the work, they used a library and don't actually understand it, or they made it up altogether. This is assuming, of course, that they did the work relatively recently (<5 years).

If they deflect by mentioning either IP agreements or NDA's, then remain on topic but discuss something else under the same umbrella. For example, if the candidate deflects a question concerning k-means clustering, then ask about k-nearest-neighbors. If they continue to deflect, that's a red flag.

I'm a pessimist when it comes to hiring, but there are a lot of imposters claiming undue credit in this industry.

I recommend finding the best bullshitter at your company and having that person interview the candidates with you. A good bullshitter can always spot another bullshitter.

[bsvalley]

Interviewing requires a lot of experience and you have to be extremely humble. You may fail at capturing excellent candidates in only 30 minutes based off your own judgement. The more curious and patient you are, the better. In the scenario you've described, flagging the candidate means you didn't get the exact answer you were expecting after you asked a question, which is a terrible judgement. The red flag should be on the interviewer side.

Your role as an interviewer is to extract the information out of a candidate, otherwise we'd be using programs to do that for us because it's not just a 'yes' or 'no' answer. What I would do if I were you is to ask a follow up question - "I'm actually interested in learning more about that deep learning piece you mentioned, could you elaborate more on that, for example, is it using xyz technique or abc?". If the candidate can't answer your follow up question then follow up with "do you have experience in deep learning?". Only then, you'll get an accurate answer to your question. There's no guessing nor red flagging. If it's a yes then dig more until you get to understand the level of exposure to deep learning for this candidate. As you can tell, it involves 2 things from you: 1. be on top of deep learning if it's a requirement for this role, 2. being curious and ready to triple check your judgement. It's not a "I know, you don't know" type of situations, it's about trying to understand the level of a candidate within certain topics, while pushing the conversion in the right direction. That is your role as an interviewer.

Last but not least, it's totally fine if the answer you get is "I don't know anything about this topic". Try to find out if the candidate would be willing to learn deep learning and the reason why he/she would be interested in learning that. You may not have a deep learning expert in front of you, but maybe this person has the potential to become the next DL guru based on other things that could highlight excellent problem solving. You have to bridge the gaps as an interviewer by staying positive until the end - I'm sure this candidate has something to offer, let's try to find out what is that super power!

[gesman]

I'd probably consider it a "red" flag.

In the past, when i was asked about details of projects (non confidential) that i actually was working on - it always was fun for me to go into details and have conversation of equals instead of being interrogated.