[randcraw]

Yes. I worked in the intel space and never knew a SES who wasn't a project manager or had several direct reports. Software staff aren't SES unless they run a group. I'd be surprised if high GS numbers (i.e. 12-14) applied to software staff unless they had 10+ years of experience or direct reports.

[ganoushoreilly]

Some of the ranges I’m seeing here are “best case too” much like “google pays 200k+”. It all boils down to negotiation and open billets / funding. SES is extremely rare even in “TAO”.