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by rectang 3270 days ago
Eventually, those "universal" rights have to be applied to an out-group or they are meaningless. There's no avoiding a conflict. Look at the hundreds of messages on this page which sum to "nothing is wrong, change nothing".
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> "those "universal" rights have to be applied to an out-group"

Yes, absolutely! That's why I used the term "universal". They apply to everyone, not just favored groups.

> "hundreds of messages on this page which sum to "nothing is wrong""

A few. Most, you're reading uncharitably. I'd summarize the most common theme as more like "we've misidentified the precise problem, and as a result our solutions are ineffective or worse."

> "There's no avoiding a conflict."

Some types of conflict are essential and inevitable. Others are optional and unnecessary.

When you apply universal rights to a group that has been dehumanized, there is necessary conflict between those who wish to continue dehumanization and those who wish to end it.

But when you treat rights like a contest, you introduce unnecessary conflict, by creating incentives for various groups to try to knock one another down in order to compete for a more favorable spot in the hierarchy.

Focus on resolving necessary conflict, not artificially generating unnecessary conflict.