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by cbanek 3274 days ago
My bad, I was thinking of employer sponsored healthcare, and I think they usually didn't count labor under the deductible. But yes, buying any kind of healthcare on the public market pre-ACA was terrible.

And I meant that being pregnant is a normal healthy condition, that happens to normal healthy people. Sick people can be pregnant, of course, and sickness can be precipitated by being pregnant (like gestational diabetes), but in general it's something that happens normally, unlike illnesses.
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taxicabjesus 3274 days ago
> And I meant that being pregnant is a normal healthy condition, that happens to normal healthy people.

It was normal, until early 20th century doctors (mostly male) decided that the midwives (mostly female) didn't actually know anything about childbirth. To protect women from the "incompetent" midwives, the doctor guild successfully exterminated their competition.

Midwives used to have little tricks for normal pregnancy problems, like how to get a breech baby to turn. Much of the institution's knowledge was lost in the Purge.

I realized a while back that there are two books called The American Way of Birth [1]. The local science library had a copy of the earlier one. This book examines the "medicalization" of normal female experiences.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13742782

This 2013 NY Times article [2] has a nice summary of the effects of the medicalization of childbirth on the costs thereof:

  [...] Childbirth in the United States is uniquely 
  expensive, and maternity and newborn care constitute the 
  single biggest category of hospital payouts for most  
  commercial insurers and state Medicaid programs. The 
  cumulative costs of approximately four million annual 
  births is well over $50 billion. 
  [...]
  Those payment incentives for providers also mean that   
  American women with normal pregnancies tend to get more of 
  everything, necessary or not, from blood tests to 
  ultrasound scans, said Katy Kozhimannil, a professor at 
  the University of Minnesota School of Public Health who 
  studies the cost of women’s health care.
[2] American Way of Birth, Costliest in the World - http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/01/health/american-way-of-bir... (this article was probably not directly inspired by either book of the same name)

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just4themoney 3273 days ago
Whether is is "normal" or "happens normally" is not important from an insurance standpoint because from their end its nothing more than a bunch of expensive claims, even "normal" births are just a bunch of expensive claims. Childbirth is a far cry from "pretty cheap," an uncomplicated vaginal birth costs tens of thousands of dollars minimum. You seem to be ignoring months of prenatal care and the care for any pregnancy complications that may come up, of which there are many. Childbirth costs are much more than just the cost of "labor."

The fact you couldn't purchase individual plans that covered these expenses is a huge testament to that. It was so expensive that it required the force of law to get insurance companies to cover them.

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