[chad_strategic]

I probably should have stated that at least with running your mileage my vary. (pun intended)

The elliptical machine gives me shin splints and I don't get a really good cardio work out.

You are right swimming works wonders as well.

Never had any doctor told me not to run, but they all told me to have surgery?

My personal experience is that with some proper exercise and corrective action, the majority of people can beat the need to have significant back surgery. I just want people to know there can be alternatives out there.