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by ramshanker 3280 days ago
I just wonder, how much bandwidth these cars send home (Tesla HQ) as learning data.
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This explains how the learning works in general: https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/insideHPC/tesla-accelerate...

This one contains graphs of the bandwidth consumed if you allow them to upload: https://www.google.com/amp/s/electrek.co/2017/06/14/tesla-au...

Also curious about this. Tesla has the ability to to hoard millions of hours of driving experience per year. Data seems to trump all in ML applications so far and Tesla definitely has the most available to harvest.

At the same time, Tesla is primarily video based and it is likely quite difficult to call home with gigabytes of video every night.

Is it possible to disable reporting? If, say, I'm not thrilled by idea telling the guys from Tesla where I'm heading to?
Yes
How? Even Tesla's with autopilot equipped (but not purchased) capture data.
You get a chance to decide if you want to send the data to them.
According to this link[0] posted above:

"Of course, the bandwidth varies based on what network it’s being sent from – meaning that some owners can track their home network, but not the data sent from the in-car cellular connection, which is covered by Tesla and managed by AT&T in the US."

[0]https://electrek.co/2017/06/14/tesla-autopilot-data-floodgat...

That's pretty clearly part of the long term play
And I hope we can end this stuff where companies take training data produced by civilians for free, and then keep it secret.

If you use data given to you by your users, you should have to release it into the public domain.

I am actually super intrigued to see how the launch of the Model 3 affects this practice from a legal standpoint. Currently, Tesla's high priced cars are fairly niche, and a lot of their practices fall under people's radar. Issues like right to repair, the active tracking of every car, etc. are pretty concerning from an ownership standpoint.

With buyers who may be less apt to replace their car every couple years, and a larger volume of buyers in general, I am kind of expecting more of Tesla's practices to get tested in court.

From a privacy standpoint, Tesla's 'learning data' is arguably a big deal, and from my understanding, something you currently can't shut off, even if you possess the title of ownership to the vehicle.

I'm pretty sure you can pop the SIM card out if you really don't want your data going back to the mothership.

Right to repair is an interesting angle. They've made noises about opening things up to help with the influx of cars that the Model 3 will bring. Let's hope they follow through.