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Clean architecture is just repackaged DDD. I sympathize with what Bob is trying to do though -- for some reason this stuff often doesn't "click" with many developers until they see it and then it seems "obvious."

I think it's hard to really explain why software should be built like this. This is why architects and senior devs and the like often end up ruling by dictat and simply laying down rules like "messages only in the ACL, no messaging in the domain." The problem that Clean Architecture and DDD are trying to solve are architectural and ultimately organizational problems and these problems are not clear to most developers who are just given a story and told to implement some new feature or story. The only hope is to make these these architectural problems everybody's problem. Spread the pain.

Microservices btw are no escape hatch. Microservices that don't get the essential system boundaries right are in fact going to become a horrible mess. If anything microservices make it more important to think carefully about the boundaries and the interfaces of the system.