[harisamin]

Are you serious? US has been ther for over a decade now. One of the US goals is to promote democracy and education of women to detract from taliban ways which indeed help the US perogative, rightfully so IMHO. Even if you agree with the 'travel ban', it seems completely counter productive, careless, disrespectful, and destructive for the state department (or other powers that be) to not handle such scenarios with care and elegance. But I guess that's bureaucracy for you. Exactly one of the reasons why some were opposed to the ban to being with.

[arthur_trudeau]

Right, the US project for 15 years now has been explicitly to destroy their traditional society via, amongst other things, emancipating their women. My question is why I or other Americans should care about that goal.

It seems like a travel ban is a really effective way to make sure that we don't in fact need to care how they run their society.

[harisamin]

You should revisit the assumption that the travel ban would be effective at all. Saudi Arabia isnt on that list. Think about that for a sec. Of course we know why, because there are other national self interests involved. Of course every government has had its share of hypocracy clearly aligned with the nations self interest. Just call it like it is and don't be naive. Calling for repealing sanctions on Cuba because of 'political prisoners' should make one chuckle when looking st Saudi Arabia is concerned .

[fishnchips]

Let's also blame suffragettes for destroying our own traditional society.

[arthur_trudeau]

I mean, if the US had lost a war, been occupied by people with the explicit stated goal of destroying their existing social fabric, who then heavily funded and sponsored "suffragettes" at the point of a bayonet after stating this was a key tactic in doing so, yeah, people might be concerned!