[danthemanvsqz]

So there is a tipping point when the technical debt you acquire from not testing catches up with you and cripples the project. I think this tipping point comes much faster than people realize. Most people have no idea how bad their tech debt is until it's too late. Then you see one failure after another while management tries to fix the train wreck. At this point any good Eng is going to bail in this market and you're stuck with the scrubs.

[collyw]

The crippling debt is caused by not refactoring, not lack of testing. Admittedly testing will make the refactoring easier, but thats not the root of the problem.