[charlesdm]

I don't live in EE (and maybe I'm naive about this), but shouldn't it actually be easier to find great talent if you put in an effort?

I mean, there are great people in pretty much in every country, and if the alternative is, say, (boring) outsourcing development work, shouldn't you be able to convince people with above average (local) pay and offering them a great place to work, etc?

[taway_1212]

> convince people with above average (local) pay and offering them a great place to work

With hardly any VC money around, you don't really have a way to pay for those.

[charlesdm]

Nonsense. You’ll make plenty of money by actually building something people will pay for. You know, a product can actually make money without raising VC?

[taway_1212]

I agree, but then you have to bootstrap with your savings, which means you definitely won't be paying above average wages and renting nice offices etc (which is what I was replying to).

[Luc]

A great many successful entrepreneurs have money (and often a tradition of entrepreneurship) in the family to get them started. No VC needed.

[auganov]

Don't need to raise local. And you probably shouldn't anyways if you're in Europe.

[vminkov]

That may be valid only if you're able to raise good money but the tech investing culture is quite underdeveloped here. The startup scene needs several bigger exits to make the investors greedy and curious about it and also construction/private property yields huge profits right now, so the tech startups are not the spotlight catcher.

[charlesdm]

Without making this sound ridiculous -- sometimes it just doesn't make sense to do tech. If I can make crazy returns investing and/or building property, you should probably be doing property and not tech. EE is probably a good place to be in terms of property investing at the moment.

But there's probably a place for both.