[karipatila]

I find it extremely uncomfortable to partake in these discussions (outside HN, of course). The Macrumors poll effectively claims over 50% of the units are defective. It seems not that many people have a problem with this kind of reasoning. I've also noticed Godwin's law in effect faster than usual.

What I do find interesting, however, is the need to utterly bash a product you will never buy, and never intended to, possibly because you believe your own brand of choice to benefit from that sort of commentary.

[sprout]

I do think that this is a somewhat pointless discussion, but it's less a question of preferring another brand to believing that the Apple brand is increasingly harmful to free speech, and not just in a GNU all-software-must-be-free manner, but hewing to the American "I can say whatever I want so long as it's reasonably not going to hurt anyone seriously" manner.

So, it's not just a question of brand, and I think there are some rational reasons to dislike Apple, which may cause irrational outbursts of nonsense.