[santaclaus]

Google hires devs to develop similar libraries... to power their machine learning efforts. There is tons of numerical work in finance, too. I don't think the money is to be made by selling copies of a Matlab-like piece of software, but in the application of the tools.

[shoyer]

This is spot on. There are plenty of jobs applying open source technologies, but far fewer building those libraries themselves.

(I'm NumPy dev who works at Google on machine learning.)

[eximius]

Really? This is somewhat surprising to me. How has Grumpy impacted your work / numerical computing in Python at Google?

[shoyer]

I haven't used Grumpy at all, and unless it starts supporting C extension modules like NumPy I doubt I ever will. Google's numerical computing / machine learning stack (e.g., TensorFlow) is based on Python/C++.

[kevin_thibedeau]

But you have to run through their interview gauntlet.

[dagw]

Even if you get head hunted?

[kevin_thibedeau]

Ken Thompson didn't (still doesn't ?) have commit access because he hasn't been vetted by Google as a competent C programmer. I don't think Google is going to relax its hiring policies no matter who you are.

[mianos]

And their decimation.