[hutzlibu]

"It seems you agree with my comment that the U.S. has need of such spy agencies but disagree with their goals or probable results of their actions."

Not quite. I said that the EMPIRE USA needs all that. But empires rule with fear under the threat of violence and the aura of knowing everything about everyone.

So I was trying a bit subtle to ask, whether you and other US-People want the USA to be an Empire - or simply the most powerful state, which uses is power to actually defend human rights and respect the sovereignty of other states and people. Such a USA other states and people would follow willingly.

[nickpsecurity]

I'd rather us be top or nearly so in innovation, military strength, and humane use of both. The people in power along with their voters disagreed with that to a degree. Many didnt even know what they were doing because media here is corrupt: they don't want the lucrative for them establishment to change. They get more revenue also by telling their demographic what they want to hear. So, these two keep Americans indoctrinated, mislead, and distracted enough to not be able to fix the situation.