[manicdee]

When the inevitable human fatalities are realised, we will see that everyone involved had done their best: SpaceX doing everything they can to make their rockets more reliable, a launch escape system that works all the way to orbit, and dozens of successful launches on the same hardware.

[babyrainbow]

> When the inevitable human fatalities are realised, we will see that everyone involved had done their best:

Have you seen the movie called "the challenger disaster". If not, you should see it. It might helps to gain a bit of perspective about these things.

[Inconel]

I don't always have the best reading comprehension but this seems somewhat cryptic. I don't have time to watch a movie at the moment but what was the perspective you gained from it?

Also, I'm always a sucker for a good space related movie, was it any good? I'm not sure which one you're talking about but these are the two I was able to find:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Challenger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_(1990_film)

[babyrainbow]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2421662/

The Challenger Disaster(2013) : Factual drama exploring the truth behind the space shuttle Challenger's 1986 disintegration.

Your comment reminded, specifically this part " When the inevitable human fatalities are realized, we will see that everyone involved had done their best:" reminded me of the speech given by someone in charge of the investigation at the start of it..

>I appreciate you all coming together at short notice. We have a huge, vital task ahead of us, upon which might depend the future of manned space flight in this country. Now, I intend for this investigation to follow an orderly and proper procedure. We are not going to conduct it in a manner that is in any way unfairly critical of NASA. Because we believe, and certainly I believe, that NASA has done an excellent job. And I believe that the American people think so too. Anyone?

Of course, it turned out to be not so pretty...

[Inconel]

So this exchange is veering dangerously close to me going full on SpaceX shill mode, which I have no desire to do, one for the good of the HN community as I don't think that would be appreciated here, but also for the simple fact that I'm off the clock right now and Elon will need to increase my pay if he intents me to run PR on my off hours.

Thank you for clarifying your previous post as this is what I was thinking you meant, but I didn't want to say anything without being sure. With that being said, and at the risk of sounding overly defensive, I do find it somewhat unkind to call into question the ethics and professionalism of those who work at SpaceX based on a movie about a completely different set of organizations and corporations. This of course isn't to say that there aren't valuable lessons to be learned from those past events, or that we are somehow immune from making similar mistakes, but implying that if such an event befell a SpaceX launch it would immediately be due to a lack of people giving it their best seems somewhat premature.

I do have a well read and marked up copy of both the Rogers Commission Report as well as the CAIB report on my bookshelf, so I can assure you that I and many others do take the lessons learned from those events very seriously. Thanks for the movie recommendation, I'll add it to my to-watch list.