[eksemplar]

It's not the role of a democratic and free government to use mass surveillance against its own citizens. It's something you do in a tyranny to weed out dissidents and quill rebellions before they happen.

I'm sure you can put up a lot of good points as to why he NSAs of the world help, but the simple truth is, that we are not free when we live under a surveillance state.

[walshemj]

And in what "democratic and free" state are there not bad actors who do need investigating?

Hanson, Philby etc.

[eksemplar]

Safety is a common argument, but mass surveillance doesn't seem to be keeping us safe. https://goo.gl/images/ciNqLM