[questerzen]

So I hate C++. What I really want is the speed, flexibility, universality and simplicity of C. But I wish structs had destructors, and a way to bind namespaced related functions. Only since I basically now have classes, I should really think about adding inheritance. And I also find prototyping, testing and non-speed critical programming is a pain without a good generic container library. Containers can be implemented fairly elegantly with templates, but then I probably also need some compile-time processing ability. Oh crap, I just ended up at C++ again. And so I persist with C++ as my main language, with a constant voice in the back of my mind saying, "this is just stupid, there must be a better way. Why is there SO g-d* much accidental complexity in this language?". In my view, C++ has probably wasted more programmer hours, and added more sadness and despair to the world (at the very least MY world) than any other technology. But given my language wish list it's very, very hard not to be tempted to fire up c++-mode for just one more hit.

[harrisi]

Other than C, are there any languages that interest you? Are languages like Rust or D or other systems languages not what you're looking for? How come?

[questerzen]

I use Python a great deal, especially for tooling and prototyping and appreciate the fact that programming is fast, easy and focused on the inherent complexity of the problem. Similar positive experiences with Smalltalky and Lispy languages as embedded languages. But I write a lot of performance-critical libraries for programs that need good C/C++ interop and where C++ is pretty much the lingua franca. Swift, D and Go, for example, all have their strong points, and I plan to do more experiments when I have some time ... after this one last C++ project, though!

[adamrezich]

D? Nim?

Jonathan Blow's upcoming language?

[geezerjay]

> But I wish structs had destructors

In C++, structs are just classes whose members are public by default.