[jchw]

I'm pretty disappointed with the specs on most Lenovo laptops anymore. Why does everyone put junk ULV processors in laptops nowadays? I'd die for a slightly thicker laptop that had good specs at a price that's more reasonable. No joke, you'd be much better with a used 2012 MBP than nearly any recent Thinkpad. I have an X1 Carbon that is just pathetic. With Apple going the direction it is, I really wish there was an alternative.

[currysausage]

> Why does everyone put junk ULV processors in laptops nowadays?

Because nowadays they are up to usual tasks while allowing long battery life and light, compact devices.

If you want more than a U processor, the T470p and the P51/71 are for you (Core i7-7820HQ or even Xeon E3-1535M v6 possible).

[jchw]

I understand that _most people_ aren't going to need big processors. But truth be told, I had a lot of trouble finding something that even had a remotely good processor that didn't start over $1200. It feels like a lot of laptops marketed toward professionals are now coming with ULV, and that makes it hard to find laptops that are actually suitable for my heavy usage. (I since switched to a desktop because of this exact problem.)

But, now that you pointed it out, the T470p looks excellent. Browsing their site, I would've never found this, or at least I certainly didn't a while back when I was in the market.

[currysausage]

> Browsing their site, I would've never found this

I don't blame you, the Lenovo website is utter crap in almost every respect.

[m_mueller]

It seems to me Apple is correcting though, looking at recent announcements. They seem to have been listening pretty hard. If they correct their messy port situation then all is pretty much in order again IMO.

[copperx]

Except for a 17" version. The 17" MacBook Pro will never come back :(