[raverbashing]

The latest attackers have given plenty of clues, like appearing in documentaries about extremism, being violent to their neighbours and actually stating their intentions for whomever wanted to listen

But I guess it's "racist" to take action on that

[rwmj]

Can you give an actual example where someone in authority said they would or could not follow up a lead into a terrorist plot because it would be racist to do that?

[DanBC]

Not terrorism, but race was one small factor that caused the Rotherham child sexual exploitation rings to not be rigorously investigated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploit...

This was a long running set of crimes that had severe impact on the victims, and there were very many victims.

Investigating people before they are terrorists is complicated by things like human rights. But raping children is always, unambiguously, wrong.

[Brakenshire]

Those are decisions made by social workers and local government, that's a long, long way from the Met and MI5.

[DanBC]

Parent post doesn't mention the Met or MI5, and I'm not sure how the Met s relevant for eg Manchester bombing.

Those decisions not to investigate or prosecute were also made by police in Rotherham. Police were well aware of the extent of the criminality, and chose not to investigate or prosecute.

http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/1407/independent_...

> Within social care, the scale and seriousness of the problem was underplayed by senior managers. At an operational level, the Police gave no priority to CSE, regarding many child victims with contempt and failing to act on their abuse as a crime. Further stark evidence came in 2002, 2003 and 2006 with three reports known to the Police and the Council, which could not have been clearer in their description of the situation in Rotherham. The first of these reports was effectively suppressed because some senior officers disbelieved the data it contained. This had led to suggestions of coverup. The other two reports set out the links between child sexual exploitation and drugs, guns and criminality in the Borough. These reports were ignored and no action was taken to deal with the issues that were identified in them

[...]

> Some at a senior level in the Police and children's social care continued to think the extent of the problem, as described by youth workers, was exaggerated, and seemed intent on reducing the official numbers of children categorised as CSE

etc etc.

[richrichardsson]

Of course he can't. Note the use of quotes around racist, smacks of "I'm not racist but" mindset IMO.

[richrichardsson]

No, it's an "intelligence" failure, and a direct result of austerity cuts.

[ptaipale]

Clearly they had the intelligence information, so it's not an intelligence failure.

It was lack of authorisation to act, and even that does not come from any "austerity cuts". It comes from the difficult balance of citizen's rights to "freedom of expression" and "privacy" and "right to family life" and so on.

The silly part is simply that foreign citizens can preach violence but they can't be deported.