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by Someone 3294 days ago
Don't German networks have agreements to route traffic for other operators if they don't have coverage somewhere? That would surprise me.

And the rules are made to make it difficult to get that contract in a different country, as you aren't allowed to roam for 12 months a year for free.
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germanier 3294 days ago
They don't. The gaps in coverage are very small at least for basic phone service. LTE is available for at least 93%/90%/80% of the area respectively for the three networks. Good coverage is also the main factor of competition.
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mschuster91 3294 days ago
They did, at least O2 had a inland roaming with Telekom back in its early days; after the merge between O2 and EPlus the networks are still doing inland roaming afaik.

And I'd say with O2 you don't get anywhere next to 90% LTE - not in the countryside (where Vodafone and Telekom often enough also offer EDGE at best), but also in major cities. Berlin is the worst (at Hbf and Gesundbrunnen you're lucky to have actually working HSDPA!), next comes Hamburg and Duesseldorf. Munich is fairly good, also in the subways.

The general problem with O2 is when the network gets congested - e.g. demonstrations, festivals, sometimes on Autobahns even traffic jams! - there is no Internet service at all. The phone may show a "4G" indicator but no traffic goes through. Telekom and Vodafone seem to handle sudden congestions way better, I am not sure how though.

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germanier 3294 days ago
Sorry, I edited my comment while you replied. O2 officially is at 80% LTE coverage according to the latest BNetzA report. But as far as I know they often use cells that can't handle the needed capacity.

When the networks where new, some offered roaming in some areas, I remember that as well. The E-Plus/O2 roaming was more of a technical thing when they merged, it should now be largely gone and a single network.

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mschuster91 3294 days ago
It's iirc their backhaul network that can't keep up, not the technology they use in their BTS. Telekom and Vodafone have large fiber networks (Telekom for DSL, Vodafone for cable-Internet) so they can use existing infrastructure (conduits, electricity lines, right-of-way for houses housing concentrators, routers etc) while O2/Eplus had to build out/rent everything.

In addition O2/Eplus historically got the cheaper but more inefficient frequency ranges which made them the "low cost" players.

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