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by forgotpwtomain 3294 days ago
The entire concept of suicide being illegal is appalling to begin with. No one ever asks a human being whether they want to live life, and for any entity to presume jurisdiction over that is ridiculous. This is the legacy of centuries of religious superstition...
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Suicide isn't really illegal, you can't be prosecuted for it or for attempting it. It does have some interesting corner cases. If police believe you are attempting suicide they can enter your house to stop you without a warrant. A person who attempted suicide but was stopped or saved by someone cannot sue that person for any injuries sustained during their rescue. And of course if you are considered an active threat to yourself by a qualified mental health professional you can be involuntarily admitted to a psychiatric institution.
There is a marked difference between someone who has a terminal, painful illness and has made a cold, rational, and sober decision to end their life and someone who has a mental disorder/abnormality or is facing a major crisis and makes an impulsive decision.

The vast majority of suicide attempts are caused by temporary, immediate stressors that recede with the oassage of time. 70% of people who commit suicide do so within an hour of of making the decision. 90% of people who survive suicide attempts do not try it again.[1] It is an overwhelmingly impulsive act when people, caught up in the emotion of a major crisis, cannot see any path forward.[1]

I'm not sure if this is the legacy of religiosity, but modern attitudes towards suicide are clinically shaped that understand the fleeting nature and temporary sway of many suicide crises. You present a romanticized view of it(a sober, rational decision made over a period of time, perhaps due to a legacy of classic greek philosophers, that is inaccurate and dangerous. I say this as someone who had a friend commit suicide in 8th grade in a typical dad pushes son too hard academically and athleticly, son feels depressed, finds dad's gun and ends life scenario. He couldnt see the options in front of him... running away, seek emancipation, put up with shit for another 4 years before finally telling his family to frak off...

Public suicide should be illegal for the often melodramatic way in which they choose to end their life and the extreme trauma that witnesses suffer. Watching someone as they jump off a bridge/building, splatter on the sidewalk, or blowing their brains out leaves scars no amount of therapy can heal.

[1] New England Journal of Medicine - Guns and Suicide Rates in US => http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp0805923#t=article

Where in the US is suicide illegal?
It's not, but apparently assisting can get you in trouble regardless.

The court ruling in this case cites a precedent involving somebody handing a loaded gun to a person who said in an impulse that she wants to kill herself and then actually did and another case when people were sentenced for playing Russian roulette until somebody "lost". FWIW, I agree with the first case but the second one is stretching it IMO.

Ultimately, you can't really disagree that most of the time, people generally want others to live, whether they like it or not.