[ooqr]

That's exactly what I'd like to see. The problem with UBI is it's not that.

There's room for more than one social program in dire circumstances, but ideally we should have a social structure which incentivizes doing good. Help those who can't help others, and encourage those who can to do so.

[oconnore]

I'd like that too, but I think at this point, tactically, we need to come together on "we need some social programs, period", and not bicker so much about what that looks like on the first iteration -- there is always a second iteration to be had.

[ooqr]

Finally someone who sways me. I agree.

I do advocate at least modicum of empiricism and caution, an approach of testing ideas on city level before country.