[stunthamsterio]

I don't believe so. Alarms etc are (I suspect) stored locally, but to enact a change on the device I believe it has to send it upstream via the phone app and the device then retrieves the changes.

So when the service is shut down my expectation is that I won't be able to change any of my device settings. Not to mention that the room data and sleep data will be unavailable.

[anc84]

Ah, in that case I feel no pity. Why would anyone buy a device like that is beyond me.

[lsaferite]

This is the exact reason I don't really like cloud connected IoT devices. For instance, while I'd love to have a Nest thermostat, I refuse to us it due to requiring a connection to function fully. So I've opted instead for a 'dumb' thermostat with WiFi and an open and well-documented local API. About the only current exception to that in my house is my Amazon Echo, and that will be replaced as soon as someone comes out with a viable local-only alternative.

[yellow_postit]

I don't mind cloud connected devices, what I stay away from are cloud-required devices.

Open APIs and the option to run a private server are great, but the device should retain some bit of functionality if there's no network.

[lsaferite]

Yeah, I agree. I will always give preference for devices that fully function without internet access. For instance, the Venstar thermostat I use has a cloud component where you can track stats and remote control the device if you want, but it's 100% optional and the device loses no functionality, beyond the on-device weather, when there is no internet access. The local APIs allow me to easily integrate it with my HA controllers as well.