[kelnos]

I think the criterion I like best is that if you're actively sacrificing profitability for growth, you're a startup.

Obviously there are exceptions in both directions, and other factors to consider, but this seems to be a pretty good starting point for discussion to me.

[seanp2k2]

Yep, Amazon was the first counter-example I thought of. Definitely not a start-up but they trade profit for growth all day.