[zeta0134]

I personally run syncthing on several devices, and don't worry about the cloud. It's self-hosted, devices replicate files between themselves, and there's no real limit other than hard drive space. It runs on just about anything too; several of my backup systems are Raspberry Pis.

It can be a bit weird to set up initially, and is a lot less magical in the interest of putting you in control for privacy reasons, but the flexibility added is pretty useful. I have a music folder that I sync to my phone without needing to pull the rest of my backups along with it, since they wouldn't fit anyway. Several of my larger folders aren't backed up on every single device for similar reasons, but some of my really important smaller folders (documents, photos, regular backups of my website's database) go on everything just because it can.

Anyway, check it out. Highly recommended all around: https://syncthing.net/

[Symbiote]

If you accidentally delete some files (even all the files!), won't Syncthing delete all the "backups"?

I don't use Syncthing, I use an rsync script I wrote over 10 years ago, using the --link-dest option to keep incremental backups for around 2 years.

This relies on Zsh's fancy globbing, but the gist of it is:

    date=$(date +%Y%m%d-%H%M)

    [for loop over users]

    older=( $backups/$user/*(N/om) )

    rsync --archive --recursive \
        --fuzzy --partial --partial-dir=$backups/$user/.rsync-partial \
        --log-file=$tempfile --link-dest=${^older[1,20]} \
        --files-from=$configdir/I-$user \
        --exclude-from=$configdir/X-$user \
        $user@$from:/ $backups/$user/$date/

[anc84]

Syncthing has options to store versions of files so that scenario is easily avoided: https://docs.syncthing.net/users/versioning.html

[lewisl9029]

Unfortunately, in my experience, Syncthing's versioning mechanisms leave much to be desired compared to what I'm used to from Dropbox. AFAIK all of Syncthing's versioning schemes only keep versions of files that have been changed _on other devices_, and not those that have changed on the device itself, whereas what I'm looking for is an option to keep a synchronized version history for all files on all devices, and the ability to more intuitively roll back and roll forward the state of any file to any revision without having to mess with manually moving and replacing files and reading timestamps (better yet would be the ability to do so for entire directories, but I realize this would probably be very difficult to accomplish across devices in a decentralized manner).

[rovr138]

I used a similar script for a long time but I'm using now rnsapshot.

[GordonS]

For me, one of the main benefits of cloud-based backup is that it's off-site - so if my house burns down, my data is still safe.

[brixon]

Think about a Media Safe. Some are really expensive, but this one is not too bad. Just a really small storage area. https://www.amazon.com/First-Alert-2040F-Water-Media/dp/B000...

[guiambros]

What about break ins? Someone enters your place and steal your NAS (and the Media Safe)...

[guiambros]

This.

That's my primary use case for Amazon Drive. I have a robust rsync of the workstations and laptops to a NAS, and then to a second (incremental-only, no delete) NAS. Works great, but if the house burns down, or if someone breaks in and steals the computers, I want to ensure there's a copy somewhere.

[russdpale]

If that is your main concern you could always put it on an external drive and put it a bank safe deposit box. I've thought about doing that for at least the very important things, perhaps even printing some important pictures too.

[HelloNurse]

You just need another house to burn down.

Don't you have friends or relatives at a reasonable distance who can set up mutual backups on each other's home servers?

[GordonS]

Yes, but nobody else with a FTTC internet connection with an unlimited bandwidth allowance (I'm in the UK). I have 2TB of data, so speed is important.

[creepydata]

I don't have a single friend that has a home server. Most adults don't even own computers anymore, just phones and perhaps an iPad.

[ytjohn]

A good scenario is building a backup server/nas solution that you can put in a little cubby at your friends place. There's trust involved that you're not using their internet to hack the government, and you have to be mindful of their bandwidth/power costs. So not a rackmount server or even a tower, but something much smaller and very appliance looking. A nuc sitting atop a wd passport or their "my book".

If it provides them a benefit like an in-house plex server, even better.

[richardknop]

Another option would be to rent a safety deposit box at a bank for $25 per year and store your backups there as flash drives. Cheap and very secure.

Of course it requires you going to the bank regularly to update the backup.

[lewisl9029]

I've moved mostly to syncing through Syncthing for my devices too, but I'm curious what people use for sharing files with others and accessing files through a browser on machines you don't control?

[olegkikin]

So you're one house fire away from losing all your data forever.