[delerio]

So only rich people deserve to have a family? Only the rich deserve to find joy in nurturing and raising others? A lot of people, even though they don't have much, they find fulfillment in their family. If you think they shouldn't have children, that means taking away the only joy in some people's lives. Weird sentiment you have there.

[eeZah7Ux]

Nothing in life is due to us. There is no "deserve".

Also, you are painting a false dichotomy between "rich" and "poor". A lot of middle and lower class people can raise healthy and happy children unless they have problems with mental health / violence / substance abuse & so on.

> taking away the only joy in some people's lives

Looking at children as a source of joy instead of a recipient of unconditional care and effort sounds very narcissistic.

[delerio]

I don't understand your point. Many people find joy in raising children, it fulfills a purpose in their life. Not everyone does, but many do. There is a biological desire to procreate and continue the species.

[wolfgke]

> Many people find joy in raising children, it fulfills a purpose in their life. Not everyone does, but many do.

Many people find joy in other expensive hobbies, too. The difference is: Doing such a different expensive hobby won't make someone who you produced suffer because you lack the necessary financial backing.

[golergka]

'Deserve' is a weird word; what do you mean by it and think that it's relevant?

Raising children is a very resource and labour-heavy endeavour. Rich people have more resources and labour. It's only logical that they can afford the children while poor people don't.