[avaer]

Thing is, runtime dependencies on Github is something that Github is promoting and selling now (https://github.com/marketplace/). Maybe this incident puts that value proposition in a more visceral context.

[paxy]

How is the GitHub marketplace a runtime dependency? Code review, project management, build bots or whatever else should NOT affect the availability of your website.

[avaer]

Sure, if you measure uptime of your business and dev team by whether you're serving pages. I wouldn't.

If Github being down means you're not fixing your site today, I'd call it a runtime dependency.

[mehwoot]

I kind of see your point but it's the wrong phrase. It's not a runtime dependency in a technical sense.

[mygo]

see now you're just splitting hairs and getting into philosophy. if your website will be stale tomorrow because you can't update it today, then that is a runtime dependency imo.

[paulddraper]

Why it is down tomorrow?

(Hint: sans hug of death, because a runtime dependency brought it down.)

[paulddraper]

Incorrect. You need build-time dependencies to change an application, and runtime dependencies to run it.

Deploying/scaling is somewhere in the middle.

[jonaf]

Yeah, I should have clarified I was talking with my operations hat on. From a development perspective, you might call it a "deploy-time" or "scale up" dependency.

[aisofteng]

Just because they sell it doesn't mean people shouldn't know better.

[delias_]

naive tip: give your app that is relying on github a SKIPGIT environment variable to ignore the bits around git operations, and just make local changes as an interim hack.