Are we really at the point in society if someone asks a coworker out on a date its sexual harassment? I imagine the answer to that is whether she said yes or not. Rule #1 ... be attractive.
I'm surprised that we are still at a point in society where people legitimately don't understand the difference between workplace-appropriate behaviour, and harassment.
But, to spell the difference out:
Once is asking. Twice is harassment. Propositioning a report is a fireable offense.
>I'm surprised that we are still at a point in society where people legitimately don't understand the difference between workplace-appropriate behaviour, and harassment.
I'm not, especially when it comes to tech which is full of young 20-somethings, some of whom may be brilliant when it comes to programming and mathematics, but dumb when it comes to social cues and social interactions. A lot of this stuff gets figured out with experience.
>Once is asking. Twice is harassment. Propositioning a report is a fireable offense.
Sure. Sounds like a good general rule that may be too permissive in some cases, and too punishing in other.
Yes. Of course. Generally people are good and decent. And this case doesn't contradict this since we're talking about 20 fired employees out of 12,000.
And I didn't only refer to 'dudes'. I referred to 20-somethings. Women can be dumbasses too.
I don't think it is correct to use words dumbass and unethical as synonyms. They are not.
I defended dudes here, because they were treated as normally unethical or normally dumbass. Since women were not implied to be less capable, there was no need to defend then.
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