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by abritinthebay 3304 days ago
> AV1 isn't finalized yet.

You keep saying that as if it solves anything.

Released > Unreleased.

Is that a criticism of the format's potential? No! But it may as well not exist until it is finalized... so it can't be a competitor to a format that has been.

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> VP9 and AV1 are simply inferior codecs to H.265 in almost every way.

This was your claim.

Let me sum up the entirety of my position so we're on the same page:

- In terms of compression, AV1 is competitive with or beats HEVC, despite not being finalized.

- AV1 has support from everyone but of import save Apple when it comes to the web.

- Apple's support is not necessary for a codec to be successful (see VP9).

- AV1 is not finalized. There's more work to do. Particularly, I don't expect the present encoder/decoder implementations to be competitive with the HEVC encoders when it comes to CPU efficiency.

- HEVC has solid adoption in some areas (the more "traditional" areas like video cameras, TVs, broadcast) but has zero adoption when it comes to the web and this is extremely unlikely to change due to the patent mess.

- As members of the AoM, it's near certain that Microsoft, Google and Mozilla will add AV1 support to their browsers, which, depending on the particular source you look at, cover roughly 70% of the total browser market.

- Due to AoM support and HEVC not being an option, AV1 will be the primary successor to H.264/VP9 on the web.

- Due to its likely widespread availability from streaming services on the web and support from hardware vendors, AV1 will be prolific in other kinds of hardware.

- Due to the support of Apple and the broadcast industry, HEVC will likely not go away anytime soon.

- I agree that HEVC is not currently a viable alternative to HEVC, it not being finalized yet and all, however despite that, there are already aspects in which it is already superior, namely compression and likelihood of being supported on the web.

If it doesn't exist, then it can't have poor vendor support.

It will have good vendor support when it exists.