Yes, and the fact that we use the term "Hitler" and "Nazi" with little to no discretion. The terms are virtually meaningless now. So many people in my social circle used these words to describe Luckey, yet I do not see Luckey participating in genocide.
Is it fair to reduce Hitler and the Nazis to just the mass genocides they perpetrated? You talk about the terms becoming meaningless, yet that was the the only thing they did.
For many years they were campaigning to make Germany great again, as other countries were taking advantage of them and some elements in their country were intentionally making bad deals. Plus obviously the people who weren't real Germans were a problem that needed to be dealt with. They wanted to build up the army and built strong links between large corporations and the government.
So maybe it's okay to call people who do things like that Nazis?
No, they have every right to do that - that is part of free discussion. But something does not sit quite right when we see people having to issue public apologies for supporting a political group. Its not like Hilary or Sanders supporters at Facebook/Oculus where ever expected to do something like that. Thats a clear signal that one side is being persecuted for their views. Another way of putting it - we should attack political ideologies, not the individuals who carry them.
> No, they have every right to do that - that is part of free discussion. But something does not sit quite right when we see people having to issue public apologies for supporting a political group. Its not like Hilary or Sanders supporters at Facebook/Oculus where ever expected to do something like that.
Mmm, surely you think there's a line somewhere, right? Hypothetically, if a business owner used their profits to fund people committing genocide in Africa, you would find that objectionable, boycott that business, and demand an apology, yes? If so, then you draw the line at least at supporting genocide.
Others draw the line elsewhere. Supporting the Republican party in 2017 means supporting minority disenfranchisement, supporting open racism against and profiling of people of Hispanic and Middle Eastern descent, supporting poor health outcomes for people who aren't wealthy, supporting the undermining of our democracy through a blatant disregard for reality, and a list of other atrocities of varying magnitudes depending on who you ask. The same cannot be said for Democrats.
I think it's reasonable for many people to draw their lines at that point, and demand an apology from business leaders who support Republicans. I also think it's reasonable for you to draw your line elsewhere, and to debate in favor of your line. But I think it's crazy to claim that there is no line that a person may cross that should expel them from our modern society.
No, they have every right to do that - that is part of free discussion. But something does not sit quite right...
I just deleted a lengthy post rebutting you, because I realized that quoting this is all I need. You profess to support free speech, but you do not. That's all there is.
Is it? I'm not seeing how it's anti-free-speech to find concerning the deployment of intimidation and blackballing tactics to suppress political expression.
I walked by a "free-speech" rally the last time I visited your country. It was mostly a bunch of poor people who seemed in serious need of doctors, tailors, and dentists, yelling at "antifa" protestors and telling them to shut-up.
This word, I do not think it means what you think it means.