[mmilano]

I watched the announcement w/o knowing much about it. He justified the decision by saying:

- We're paying 100b/year when other developed countries do not have to. - Spending on that is unaccounted for. - The impact will be (only) a 2/10 Celcius reduction in temperature by 2100 - The positive impact by 2030 is the equivalent of what China pollutes in 14 days.

Just stating what was said. I don't know which are facts.

[fudgie]

According to Michael E. Mann, in 2100 it's +4.5C with no action, +3.5C with just the Paris Accord, and +1.8C with ratcheting up. (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBQpulkWAAE2mrc.jpg)

[sparkzilla]

Would that be the 'Nobel prize winner' Dr Mann, who massaged the so-called hockey stick data leading to all this climate change/global warming hysteria in the first place? Hardly a credible source of anything IMHO.

[alayne]

False. That is "skeptic" nonsense. Note the quotes around skeptic because I don't consider climate denialists true skeptics.

"Climategate" was reviewed extensively by numerous organizations and no wrongdoing was found. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatic_Research_Unit_email_c...

[sparkzilla]

Dear oh dear. Using Wikipedia to support Climate Change denial denial? Ignorance is bliss I guess. This is a good overview I picked from a random search of the many issues with Mann's work re the Hockey stick, and his lack of professional integrity [1], which is even hinted at in the well-scrubbed Wikipedia page. Anyway there's a ton of easy-to-find extremely well-sourced information debunking the stick.

By the way, Mann was forced to stop calling himself a 'Nobel Prize recipient', after it was found out that he wasn't directly awarded the prize; it was awarded to the IPCC.[2]

[1] https://wattsupwiththat.com/2017/03/29/reflections-on-mark-s...

[2] http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/331738/michael-manns-fa...

[alayne]

You posted a garbage book by a non scientist well known conservative climate denier. You are a crackpot and I don't have any more time for this.

[glup]

cite your sources please

[sparkzilla]

https://www.amazon.com/22A-Disgrace-Profession-22-Steyn-edit...