[spiralx]

> We really tend to underestimate the coping capabilities of humans.

That's great, but you're really overestimating the coping capabilities of people with ADHD - which is defined in relation to causing significant difficulties with ones life. And then there are all of the poor coping strategies which one comes up with over time that can minimise obvious problems while magnifying underlying ones.

Medication makes a huge difference. Would you say the same to a diabetic? If not, why would you say that to someone with ADHD?

[mindentropy]

I might not have been clear. In case of serious disabilities I really understand with the medication. If there are minor disabilities shouldn't medication be minimized? Shouldn't the person be given time in the society? Is it just the super fast lifestyle which aggravate the disability?

I would not say no medication to a diabetic but I would say to adhere to a good lifestyle and diet to minimize medications if possible.

[spiralx]

> In case of serious disabilities I really understand with the medication.

Being diagnosed with a mental condition generally implies serious difficulties - just being a bit distractable won't get you a diagnosis of ADHD.

> If there are minor disabilities shouldn't medication be minimized?

Why? If medication is the most effective way to treat a condition what would the basis be for avoiding using it?

> Shouldn't the person be given time in the society? Is it just the super fast lifestyle which aggravate the disability?

What super-fast lifestyle? There are coping strategies you can develop for mitigating some of the effects of ADHD, and I took part in a study on the effects of CBT used to help adults with ADHD to learn to manage their condition better. These are great, but they don't actually improve my attention, which links into your ability to remember - whereas taking Ritalin daily brings a noticeable improvement to my ability to concentrate and remember the details of my day to day life.

> I would not say no medication to a diabetic but I would say to adhere to a good lifestyle and diet to minimize medications if possible.

Do you think that medication for ADHD isn't already minimised? The implication here is again that you think people are being over-medicated - do you have any evidence for this?

[mindentropy]

>> Why? If medication is the most effective way to treat a condition what would the basis be for avoiding using it?

>> <snip> whereas taking Ritalin daily brings a noticeable improvement to my ability to concentrate and remember the details of my day to day life.

Wouldn't you worry about the side effects both short term and long term, known and unknown? Effects on the liver etc? Please understand that I am asking to know more. If the person is properly diagnosed and have the disabilities I really don't see any problem in medications.

Just to clear up the misunderstanding I am not against taking medications. I am against bad diagnosis by poor doctors.

>> Do you think that medication for ADHD isn't already minimised? The implication here is again that you think people are being over-medicated - do you have any evidence for this?

Honestly I cannot come to a conclusion that it isn't already minimized because I do not have the statistics nor am I a researcher in this.

Misdiagnosis becomes worse in some third world countries where the medication is available but good quality doctors are not present. Looking at the video linked below the diagnosis in the US too is not done right. Doesn't this cause a problem where there is no proper "measure" similar to blood glucose levels to diagnose diabetes and provide medications? The difference is that if somebody is prescribed diabetic medicines to a non-diabetic then there is a clear misdiagnois. How can you prove it is not the case with the above disorders where there is no way to clearly measure? (I really hope researches put some effort into it so that we get deeper insights on what actually causes these problems.)

What do you feel about this? : https://youtu.be/t90bpFHnFAY