| > And you base that on what exactly? Their EVs are in the pipeline. That's exactly what I base that on. Modern EV's have been widely available in the market for over half a decade, and Ford still hasn't shipped a competitive one. Sure, Ford may have a groundbreaking product "in the pipeline". But the landscape as it stands today has them pretty far behind. It seems fair to evaluate a company based on the products it actually has, not the products it claims might happen -- wouldn't you agree? > Have you considered that there have been precisely zero EVs that are being produced profitably? This is simply not true. The Volt, BMW i3, and some Tesla models are all currently profitable vehicles. https://cleantechnica.com/2015/01/28/yes-2016-chevy-volt-wil... http://insideevs.com/bmw-i3-to-be-profitable-from-day-one/ > Despite what HN conveys, the EV market is WIDE OPEN. Tesla hasn't won anything. I never claimed Tesla (or anyone else) has "won" the EV market. Just that you can't win a game you don't play, and Ford (so far) hasn't been playing. |