[Crito]

Why solve a "problem" that no actual user of the software has? It's not an iphone, it isn't meant for use by the general public.

Use nano if that's what you want. There's no reason to fuck up vim for people who actually use it to help the people who don't.

[smt88]

Many of us get dropped into vim by accident.

[Crito]

That's your distro's problem, not vim's. There is no reason to fuck up vim just because distros are poorly configured.

[smt88]

You're changing the subject. You said:

> that no actual user of the software has? It's not an iphone, it isn't meant for use by the general public.

You're obviously wrong.

Millions of users of the software have that problem. It is used by the general public. It's irrelevant whether they intended to be users of the software or not. No one decides on a distro based on the default text editor, and some people are still learning how to use nix and won't know to change it right away.

Plus, from vim.org:

> It's not just for programmers, though. Vim is perfect for all kinds of text editing, from composing email to editing configuration files.*

Sounds like vim is for use by the general public to me. It just isn't very good at usability.

[Crito]

Changing the subject? Oh, I'm sorry. I could have sworn I was replying to you saying:

>Many of us get dropped into vim by accident.

>> It's not just for programmers, though. Vim is perfect for all kinds of text editing, from composing email to editing configuration files.*

can be used for anything != should be used by everybody

>It is used by the general public.

Laughable.

[pbhjpbhj]

Perhaps an alternative is a "first run" mode which could do something like ask "did you intend to open vim? Y/N (answering N will close vim)". If you answer Y then you get a lesson in closing vim, if N then you always get the "first-run" mode until you answer Y?

The impact on vim users would be virtually nil whilst also respecting that non-vim users are caused problems. Who is most to blame is not usually the most helpful focus.