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by WilliamDhalgren 3321 days ago
Nono, you missed the REAL computer supremacy event then; it was the 50ish (!!!) games MasterP bot played in january against the field of top go professionals on some asian go servers. The bot went 50-0, crushing all opponents often in interesting ways.

FineArt is among the bots that have a positive score against top professionals, yes. But it also can lose to them too. MasterP showed that a computer can completely outclass humans!

After the series of games, it was revealed that MasterP is in fact AlphaGo. As far as we can tell from that series, AlphaGo is some serious ELO above other strong bots. So now the question remains - is it that dominant at longer time controls too, as those games were all quick. So that's this match.
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lz400 3321 days ago
Yes I didn't know that, wow 50-0! I mean, is there any doubt at this point that it will be dominant at longer times too? and the bots don't play each other?
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WilliamDhalgren 3321 days ago
It absolutely should be dominant in a long game too. Even if it loses some of its strength at such time settings, it shouldn't lose THAT much, it was just too superhuman. The play should be interesting though; Ke Jie both had access to other strong bots in China for a long time, and could study the records of the MasterP games; maybe he tries something interesting and gets interesting responses so we all learn a bit about the nature of go (haven't watched the recording of this game yet, just woke up).

There was a computer bot championship recently (UEC cup), but AlphaGo declined to participate. FineArts won, DeepZen was second. Think there's a few other chinese bots that could be stronger than Zen but didn't participate. So the real competition didn't bother to show up really.

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lz400 3321 days ago
Fascinating, thanks for the answers. The bot improvements in the last few months have been so radical I can't begin to imagine how much it must be disrupting the strategic landscape and player status.
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iliasku 3320 days ago
there were actually 60 games and the final score was 60-0
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WilliamDhalgren 3320 days ago
yup indeed; and also it started already in December, not just January as stated above. Should've double-checked my memory before writing stuff...
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